Next steps are moving forward with the CX proposal. It would be great if you could please vote on both it and the OpenID/OAuth Hybrid proposals which are on the table.<br><br>--David<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Allen Tom <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:atom@yahoo-inc.com">atom@yahoo-inc.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
Hi All,<br>
<br>
Please accept my apologies for missing the call today, I'm quite a bit
behind on my mail, and just saw the meeting invitation just now. Are
there any meeting minutes or action items?<br>
<br>
Thanks<br><font color="#888888">
Allen</font><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
<br>
<br>
David Recordon wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Thanks, talk to you at 3pm Pacific.<br>
<br>
--David<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Tatsuki
Sakushima <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Members
of the Spec Council and the CX WG Proposers,<br>
<br>
Since two members(David and Allen) from the Spec Council are available
on 21st tomorrow,<br>
I'd like to schedule a telcon on 3pm 1/21. (Some of us have an ORMS
telecon from 2pm, I'll make it start 5 mins passed 3pm.)<br>
<br>
<br>
Here is the access information for the conference bridge tomorrow:
<div><br>
<br>
Date: Thursday, 15 January 2009 USA<br>
Time: 3:05PM - 4:05AM(PST)<br>
</div>
(This is PST. Please see the time at your time zone at Doodle.)
<div><br>
TO ACCESS THE AUDIO CONFERENCE:<br>
Dial In Number: 1 (605) 475-4333<br>
Access Code: 199834<br>
<br>
</div>
For the proposers,<br>
<br>
Even though you don't update your schedule yet, please feel free to
join the meeting.
<div><br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Tatsuki<br>
<br>
Tatsuki Sakushima<br>
NRI Pacific - Nomura Research Institute America, Inc.<br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>
<div>(1/20/09 2:14 PM), Tatsuki Sakushima wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Thank you, David.<br>
<br>
To the proposers,<br>
<br>
Please update your availability on 3pm of 21st as well.<br>
<br>
1. Go to <a href="http://www.doodle.com/rat2s87iyeqxd79z" target="_blank">http://www.doodle.com/rat2s87iyeqxd79z</a><br>
2. Click "Edit an entry"<br>
3. Click a little icon right next to your name<br>
4. Apply the change<br>
<br>
I'd like to close this poll by the 9pm on PST today and send the
conference bridge information to participants.<br>
<br>
Thank you.<br>
<br>
Tatsuki Sakushima<br>
NRI Pacific - Nomura Research Institute America, Inc.<br>
TEL:(650)638-7258<br>
SkypeIn:(650)209-4811<br>
<br>
(1/20/09 12:59 PM), David Recordon wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
3pm Pacific works for me on the 21st. I'll update my Doodle response.<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
---<br>
Sent from my iPhone Classic.<br>
<br>
On Jan 20, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Tatsuki Sakushima <<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I temporarily add 3:00pm of 21st. When Mike or David suggest the time
good for them,<br>
I'll update it.<br>
<br>
Tatsuki<br>
<br>
Tatsuki Sakushima<br>
NRI Pacific - Nomura Research Institute America, Inc.<br>
<br>
(1/19/09 5:30 PM), Nat Sakimura wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
What time woud be good then?<br>
<br>
=nat<br>
<br>
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Mike Jones <<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com" target="_blank">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:Michael.Jones@microsoft.com" target="_blank">Michael.Jones@microsoft.com</a>>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
I could do some other times that day but not that hour.<br>
<br>
-- Mike<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:specs-council-bounces@openid.net" target="_blank">specs-council-bounces@openid.net</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:specs-council-bounces@openid.net" target="_blank">specs-council-bounces@openid.net</a>><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:specs-council-bounces@openid.net" target="_blank">specs-council-bounces@openid.net</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:specs-council-bounces@openid.net" target="_blank">specs-council-bounces@openid.net</a>>]
On Behalf Of Drummond Reed<br>
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:43 PM<br>
To: 'Nat Sakimura'; 'David Recordon'; 'Tatsuki Sakushima'<br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:specs-council@openid.net" target="_blank">specs-council@openid.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:specs-council@openid.net" target="_blank">specs-council@openid.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] FW: Proposal to create the TX working group<br>
<br>
Right now I could do the 21st at 15:00PST.<br>
<br>
=Drummond<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:specs-council-bounces@openid.net" target="_blank">specs-council-bounces@openid.net</a><br>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:specs-council-bounces@openid.net" target="_blank">specs-council-bounces@openid.net</a>>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:specs-council-" target="_blank">specs-council-</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:specs-council-" target="_blank">specs-council-</a>><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<a href="mailto:bounces@openid.net" target="_blank">bounces@openid.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bounces@openid.net" target="_blank">bounces@openid.net</a>>]
On Behalf Of Nat<br>
</blockquote>
Sakimura<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:45 PM<br>
To: David Recordon; Tatsuki Sakushima<br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:specs-council@openid.net" target="_blank">specs-council@openid.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:specs-council@openid.net" target="_blank">specs-council@openid.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] FW: Proposal to create the TX working group<br>
<br>
What about other people for 21st 15:00 PST?<br>
<br>
Tatsuki, could you add that date to the doodle poll as well?<br>
<br>
=nat<br>
<br>
--------------------------------------------------<br>
From: "David Recordon" <<a href="mailto:recordond@gmail.com" target="_blank">recordond@gmail.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:recordond@gmail.com" target="_blank">recordond@gmail.com</a>>><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:51 PM<br>
To: "Tatsuki Sakushima" <<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>>><br>
Cc: <<a href="mailto:specs-council@openid.net" target="_blank">specs-council@openid.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:specs-council@openid.net" target="_blank">specs-council@openid.net</a>>><br>
Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] FW: Proposal to create the TX working group<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Thanks, though neither of those times work for me unfortunately<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
but any<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
time the 21st should.<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Tatsuki Sakushima<br>
</blockquote>
<<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>>>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi
all,<br>
<br>
As many of you suggested using Doodle.com, I created the event<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
there:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
<a href="http://www.doodle.com/rat2s87iyeqxd79z" target="_blank">http://www.doodle.com/rat2s87iyeqxd79z</a><br>
<br>
Please update your schedule there.<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
Tatsuki<br>
<br>
Tatsuki Sakushima<br>
NRI Pacific - Nomura Research Institute America, Inc.<br>
<br>
(1/15/09 5:04 PM), Tatsuki Sakushima wrote:<br>
Dear the Specifications Council members (especially David and<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
Mike) and<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">the
proposers of the CX WG,<br>
<br>
Upon the request by David, I re-schedule this teleconference to<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
the next<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
week.<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Please reply this message and specify the option that you<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
prefer. Based<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">on
replies from all participants who intend to join, I'll set up a<br>
conference bridge and email them the information.<br>
<br>
I suggest the following schedules as candidate dates:<br>
<br>
1) 4:00pm on 1/22(PST)<br>
12:00am on 1/22(GMT)<br>
9:00am on 1/23(JST)<br>
<br>
2) 2:00pm on 1/23(PST)<br>
10:00pm on 1/23(GMT)<br>
7:00am on 1/24(JST)<br>
<br>
In the OIDFSC mailing list, David already stated and explained<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
concerns<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">about
the previous charter submitted by Nat:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://openid.net/pipermail/specs-council/2008-December/000045.html" target="_blank">http://openid.net/pipermail/specs-council/2008-December/000045.html</a><br>
<a href="http://openid.net/pipermail/specs-council/2008-December/000046.html" target="_blank">http://openid.net/pipermail/specs-council/2008-December/000046.html</a><br>
<a href="http://openid.net/pipermail/specs-council/2008-December/000027.html" target="_blank">http://openid.net/pipermail/specs-council/2008-December/000027.html</a><br>
<br>
The group of the proposers(Nat, Drummond, John, Henrik and Tatsuki)<br>
</blockquote>
gathered today to<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
discuss how to change the charter that does hopefully eliminate the<br>
</blockquote>
concerns mentioned in<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
the messages from Mike and David. The updated version is on the<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
same<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
wiki page:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
<a href="http://wiki.openid.net/Working_Groups%3AContract_Exchange_1" target="_blank">http://wiki.openid.net/Working_Groups%3AContract_Exchange_1</a><br>
<br>
Please take another look at it before the teleconference and<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
provide us<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
feedbacks<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
so that we can discuss about the new charter.<br>
<br>
If you have any comments or concerns about scheduling and so forth,<br>
</blockquote>
please let me know.<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
Best,<br>
Tatsuki<br>
<br>
Tatsuki Sakushima<br>
NRI Pacific - Nomura Research Institute America, Inc.<br>
<br>
(1/15/09 2:50 PM), David Recordon wrote:<br>
Hi Tatsuki,<br>
I'm really sorry but it turns out that I must have mixed up my<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
days when<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
looking at the times yesterday. I have a two hour meeting at 3pm<br>
</blockquote>
today.<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
Is it possible to try to plan this call more than a day in<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
advance for<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
next week?<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>
Sorry,<br>
--David<br>
<br>
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Tatsuki Sakushima<br>
</blockquote>
<<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>>><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>>>>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
Hello,<br>
<br>
David and Mike Jones from the spec council responded for this<br>
invitation.<br>
David can join a conference call on the 1) slot, so I'd like<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
schedule<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> a
call on the date below:<br>
<br>
Date: Thursday, 15 January 2009 USA<br>
Time: 3:05PM - 4:05AM(PST)<br>
11:05PM on 1/15(GMT)<br>
8:05PM on 1/16(JST)<br>
<br>
TO ACCESS THE AUDIO CONFERENCE:<br>
Dial In Number: 1 (605) 475-4333<br>
Access Code: 199834<br>
<br>
From the proposers side, I confirmed that Nat, Drummond, John,<br>
and I can join. Unfortunately Mike Graves and Henrik cannot join<br>
because both of them are not available on the 1) slot but on<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
the 2).<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Tatsuki<br>
<br>
Tatsuki Sakushima<br>
NRI Pacific - Nomura Research Institute America, Inc.<br>
<br>
<br>
(1/14/09 1:59 PM), Tatsuki Sakushima wrote:<br>
<br>
Dear all,<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I suggest the following schedules as candidate dates:<br>
<br>
1) 2:00pm on 1/15(PST)<br>
10:00pm on 1/15(GMT)<br>
7:00am on 1/16(JST)<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
On Thursday, there is a XRI TC telecon that many of us join.<br>
Therefore, I suggested a hour moved back on 1). The new<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
schedule<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
is below:<br>
<br>
1) 3:00pm on 1/15(PST)<br>
11:00pm on 1/15(GMT)<br>
8:00am on 1/16(JST)<br>
<br>
Sorry for members in Europe. I might be hard to join it<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
at this<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
hour.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Tatsuki<br>
<br>
Tatsuki Sakushima<br>
NRI Pacific - Nomura Research Institute America, Inc.<br>
TEL:(650)638-7258<br>
SkypeIn:(650)209-4811<br>
<br>
(1/14/09 1:45 PM), Tatsuki Sakushima wrote:<br>
<br>
(The options of the schedules have the same number. I<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
send the<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
collection and please discard the previous one.)<br>
<br>
Dear the Specifications Council members (especially David<br>
and Mike) and<br>
the proposers of the CX WG,<br>
<br>
Upon the request of scheduling a call by Nat, I'd like to<br>
invite all the<br>
members of the spec council and the CX WG proposers to a<br>
teleconference<br>
to discuss how to solve the charter clarification and<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
scope<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
concerns<br>
pointed out by the spec council.<br>
<br>
I suggest the following schedules as candidate dates:<br>
<br>
1) 2:00pm on 1/15(PST)<br>
10:00pm on 1/15(GMT)<br>
7:00am on 1/16(JST)<br>
<br>
2) 2:00pm on 1/16(PST)<br>
10:00pm on 1/16(GMT)<br>
7:00am on 1/17(JST)<br>
<br>
Please reply this message and specify the option that you<br>
prefer. Based<br>
on replies from all participants who intend to join, I'll<br>
set up a<br>
conference bridge and email them the information.<br>
<br>
In the OIDFSC mailing list, David already stated and<br>
explained concerns<br>
about the previous charter submitted by Nat:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://openid.net/pipermail/specs-council/2008-" target="_blank">http://openid.net/pipermail/specs-council/2008-</a><br>
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December/000045.html<br>
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December/000046.html<br>
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<br>
I think that the goal of this telecon is:<br>
<br>
a) For the proposers to clarify points of concerns<br>
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raised by<br>
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the council<br>
and explain intentions of the WG.<br>
b) For the spec council to provide concrete<br>
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suggestions to<br>
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make the<br>
charter comfortable and reasonable to the spec<br>
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council and<br>
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the community .<br>
<br>
If you have any comments or concerns on this message,<br>
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please<br>
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let me know.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Tatsuki<br>
<br>
Tatsuki Sakushima<br>
NRI Pacific - Nomura Research Institute America, Inc.<br>
<br>
(1/13/09 12:15 AM), Nat Sakimura wrote:<br>
<br>
Tatsuki,<br>
<br>
Could you kindly set-up a followup call, please?<br>
<br>
In the mean time though, I would like to ask spec<br>
council members for the response towards the answers<br>
given by the proposers to your concerns. Any concrete<br>
suggestion to make it acceptable to the spec<br>
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</blockquote>
council is<br>
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also welcome. It's a wiki, after all.<br>
<br>
As to the "community support", it would probably<br>
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depend<br>
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on what "community".<br>
The proposers are probably talking of higher value<br>
transaction users, and if we do it in timely<br>
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manner, I<br>
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am pretty confident that it will have some<br>
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traction, but<br>
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it needs to happen fast. If we take too much<br>
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time, the<br>
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opportunity will go away from OpenID.<br>
<br>
=nat<br>
<br>
2009/1/1 Drummond Reed<br>
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David,<br>
<br>
First, I agree with Henrik's comments (see his<br>
separate email).<br>
Second, to say, "I do not believe that it<br>
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</blockquote>
currently<br>
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has sufficient<br>
support within the OpenID community to<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
succeed", did<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
you see the<br>
list of proposers for this workgroup?<br>
<br>
* Drummond Reed,<br>
</blockquote>
<a href="mailto:drummond.reed@parity.com" target="_blank">drummond.reed@parity.com</a><br>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:drummond.reed@parity.com" target="_blank">drummond.reed@parity.com</a>>>>>,<br>
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Cordance/Parity/OASIS (U.S.A)<br>
* Henrik Biering,<br>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:hb@netamia.com" target="_blank">hb@netamia.com</a>>>>>,<br>
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* Hideki Nara, <a href="mailto:hdknr@ic-tact.co.jp" target="_blank">hdknr@ic-tact.co.jp</a><br>
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* Mike Graves,<br>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:mgraves@janrain.com" target="_blank">mgraves@janrain.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:mgraves@janrain.com" target="_blank">mgraves@janrain.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:mgraves@janrain.com" target="_blank">mgraves@janrain.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:mgraves@janrain.com" target="_blank">mgraves@janrain.com</a>>><br>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:mgraves@janrain.com" target="_blank">mgraves@janrain.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:mgraves@janrain.com" target="_blank">mgraves@janrain.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:mgraves@janrain.com" target="_blank">mgraves@janrain.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:mgraves@janrain.com" target="_blank">mgraves@janrain.com</a>>>>>,<br>
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JanRain, Inc. (U.S.A.)<br>
* Nat Sakimura, <a href="mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">n-sakimura@nri.co.jp</a><br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">n-sakimura@nri.co.jp</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:n-" target="_blank">n-</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:n-" target="_blank">n-</a>><br>
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<a href="mailto:sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">sakimura@nri.co.jp</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">sakimura@nri.co.jp</a>>><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<mailto:<a href="mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">n-sakimura@nri.co.jp</a><br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">n-sakimura@nri.co.jp</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">n-sakimura@nri.co.jp</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">n-sakimura@nri.co.jp</a>>>><br>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">n-sakimura@nri.co.jp</a><br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">n-sakimura@nri.co.jp</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:n-" target="_blank">n-</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:n-" target="_blank">n-</a>><br>
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<a href="mailto:sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">sakimura@nri.co.jp</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">sakimura@nri.co.jp</a>>><br>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">n-sakimura@nri.co.jp</a><br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:n-sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">n-sakimura@nri.co.jp</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:n-" target="_blank">n-</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:n-" target="_blank">n-</a>><br>
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<a href="mailto:sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">sakimura@nri.co.jp</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sakimura@nri.co.jp" target="_blank">sakimura@nri.co.jp</a>>>>>,
Nomura<br>
</blockquote>
Research Institute,<br>
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Ltd.(Japan)<br>
* Robert Ott,<br>
</blockquote>
<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com" target="_blank">robert.ott@clavid.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com" target="_blank">robert.ott@clavid.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com" target="_blank">robert.ott@clavid.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com" target="_blank">robert.ott@clavid.com</a>>><br>
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</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com" target="_blank">robert.ott@clavid.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com" target="_blank">robert.ott@clavid.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com" target="_blank">robert.ott@clavid.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com" target="_blank">robert.ott@clavid.com</a>>>><br>
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</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com" target="_blank">robert.ott@clavid.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com" target="_blank">robert.ott@clavid.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com" target="_blank">robert.ott@clavid.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com" target="_blank">robert.ott@clavid.com</a>>><br>
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</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com" target="_blank">robert.ott@clavid.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com" target="_blank">robert.ott@clavid.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com" target="_blank">robert.ott@clavid.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ott@clavid.com" target="_blank">robert.ott@clavid.com</a>>>>>,
Clavid<br>
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(Switzerland)<br>
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* Tatsuki Sakushima,<br>
</blockquote>
<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>>><br>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>>>><br>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>>><br>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:tatsuki@nri.com" target="_blank">tatsuki@nri.com</a>>>>>,<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
NRI America, Inc. (U.S.A.)<br>
* Toru Yamaguchi,<br>
</blockquote>
<a href="mailto:trymch@gmail.com" target="_blank">trymch@gmail.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:trymch@gmail.com" target="_blank">trymch@gmail.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:trymch@gmail.com" target="_blank">trymch@gmail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:trymch@gmail.com" target="_blank">trymch@gmail.com</a>>><br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<mailto:<a href="mailto:trymch@gmail.com" target="_blank">trymch@gmail.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:trymch@gmail.com" target="_blank">trymch@gmail.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:trymch@gmail.com" target="_blank">trymch@gmail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:trymch@gmail.com" target="_blank">trymch@gmail.com</a>>>><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<mailto:<a href="mailto:trymch@gmail.com" target="_blank">trymch@gmail.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:trymch@gmail.com" target="_blank">trymch@gmail.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:trymch@gmail.com" target="_blank">trymch@gmail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:trymch@gmail.com" target="_blank">trymch@gmail.com</a>>><br>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:trymch@gmail.com" target="_blank">trymch@gmail.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:trymch@gmail.com" target="_blank">trymch@gmail.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:trymch@gmail.com" target="_blank">trymch@gmail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:trymch@gmail.com" target="_blank">trymch@gmail.com</a>>>>>,<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Cybozu Labs (Japan)<br>
<br>
In short, my first reaction to reading your<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
email was<br>
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to think,<br>
"Wow, here it is, the first example of OpenID<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
turning<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
into W3C and<br>
IETF and every other standards organization that<br>
turns into a small<br>
group of insiders trying to control innovation!"<br>
<br>
Of course I think you, more than almost<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
anyone,<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
can appreciate the<br>
irony of that thought - I believe it was to avoid<br>
that very<br>
situation that the OIDF was created, no?<br>
<br>
So if we DON'T want that to happen, I<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
think what<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
we need to do ASAP<br>
is turn this into a constructive dialog<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
between the<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
proposers of<br>
this Working Group and the Specs Council about how<br>
the charter might<br>
be amended to addess some of your concerns.<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
(I'm not<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
commenting yet<br>
on your specific concerns, other than to say<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
that I<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
agree with some<br>
and not with others.)<br>
<br>
I suspect email is going to be much too<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
slow for<br>
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such a dialog, so I<br>
would suggest that Nat and Tatksuki set up a<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
telecon<br>
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between the<br>
Working Group proposers and the Specs Council<br>
members. I would also<br>
suggest that before such a telecon, the Specs<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
Council<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
get together<br>
and collectively list their issues with the<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
Charter<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
on the Working<br>
Group Charter page. I have added a section for<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
this<br>
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purpose:<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</blockquote>
<a href="http://wiki.openid.net/Working_Groups%3AContract_Exchange_1#cSpecification" target="_blank">http://wiki.openid.net/Working_Groups%3AContract_Exchange_1#cSpecification</a>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
CouncilIssues<br>
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<br>
<br>
It may be that all the Specs Council members<br>
agree with your four<br>
points below, in which case you can just wholesale<br>
copy them into<br>
the wiki page. However it is very important<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
that the<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Specs Council<br>
come to it's own consensus about the issues it has<br>
with the charter,<br>
because without that, the WG proposers have no<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
hope<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
of addressing<br>
these issues, either with counterarguments or with<br>
potential amendments.<br>
<br>
Listing the issues there also enables us<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
to have<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
a more focused<br>
discussion than email alone by using comments<br>
directly on the wiki page.<br>
<br>
=Drummond<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
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<br>
*From:* David Recordon<br>
</blockquote>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:recordond@gmail.com" target="_blank">recordond@gmail.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:recordond@gmail.com" target="_blank">recordond@gmail.com</a>><mailto:<a href="mailto:recordond@gmail.com" target="_blank">recordond@gmail.com</a><br>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:recordond@gmail.com" target="_blank">recordond@gmail.com</a>>><br>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:recordond@gmail.com" target="_blank">recordond@gmail.com</a><br>
</blockquote>
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*Sent:* Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:33 AM<br>
*To:* Nat Sakimura<br>
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*Subject:* Re: [OIDFSC] FW: Proposal to create<br>
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the TX<br>
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working group<br>
<br>
Hi Nat,<br>
<br>
I read Josh's email as agreeing with Mike's<br>
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statement<br>
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of:<br>
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The OpenID Specifications Council recommends that<br>
members reject<br>
this proposal to create a working group<br>
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because the<br>
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charter is<br>
excessively broad, it seems to propose the<br>
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creation<br>
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of new<br>
mechanisms that unnecessarily create new ways<br>
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to do<br>
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accomplish<br>
existing tasks, such as digital signatures, and it<br>
the proposal is<br>
not sufficiently clear on whether it builds upon<br>
existing mechanisms<br>
such as AX 1.0 in a compatible manner, or<br>
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whether it<br>
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requires<br>
breaking changes to these underlying protocols.<br>
<br>
<br>
While you have clarified that you don't intend to<br>
create a new XML<br>
signature mechanism, OAuth describes a<br>
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mechanism to<br>
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use public keys<br>
to sign these sorts of parameters. Signatures<br>
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aside,<br>
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as Mike said<br>
other aspects of the charter seem quite broad<br>
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and it<br>
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is unclear how<br>
it will build upon AX 1.0 and other underlying<br>
existing OpenID<br>
technologies.<br>
<br>
Given the draft charter at<br>
<br>
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<a href="http://wiki.openid.net/Working_Groups%3AContract_Exchange_1" target="_blank">http://wiki.openid.net/Working_Groups%3AContract_Exchange_1</a>:<br>
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1) The purpose of producing a series of extensions<br>
seems too broad. OpenID was born on the idea of<br>
doing one simple thing and we've seen<br>
success with OpenID and related technologies when<br>
they are made up<br>
of small pieces loosely joined. OpenID<br>
Authentication 2.0 broke<br>
this rule in some areas and we're now seeing the<br>
repercussions of<br>
doing so.<br>
<br>
2) In what jurisdictions are these contracts<br>
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legally<br>
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binding? Is<br>
"arbitrary parties to create and exchange a<br>
mutually-digitally-signed legally binding<br>
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'contract'"<br>
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a justifiable<br>
statement or should it be toned down? It<br>
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should also<br>
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be kept in<br>
mind that since OpenID's creation it has been very<br>
clear that OpenID<br>
does not provide trust, but rather trust can<br>
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be built<br>
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on top of<br>
identity. I'm not saying that OpenID should never<br>
deal with trust,<br>
just trying to understand if this Working Group<br>
intends to change<br>
how OpenID currently does not create this form of<br>
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trust.<br>
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